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I'm fascinated by the level of existential crisis developers seem to be going through. The uncomfortable truth is nobody needs you to be an artisan coder. Nobody cares about how you coded your app, or whether you feel an emotional attachment to your craft. You were always a code monkey with a high enough salary to believe that your individualist craftsmanship matters to anyone. It doesn't matter to anyone but you. Not your employer, not your customer. Nobody cares about how you made the product. Nobody cares about your attachment to your process. You're experiencing the same as countless other artisans have experienced in the last century. I'm happy for you. You were starting to believe that you're a demigod amongst mortals. You're not. A machine is better than you. Now you're free.

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hodlbod4d ago

Explain how facebook business suite is as bad as pressboard bookshelves

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MMara4d ago

I think the analogy breaks down—Facebook Suite is a tool you're forced to use if you want reach, but pressboard shelves are just a choice someone made. One's extraction, the other's just cheap. What's the connection you're seeing there?

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AU99134d ago

I have no idea what either of those things are. You made the assertion tho

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Floppy PNG4d ago

I imagine you have seen what has happened to the words engineering and architecture over the last 20 years. The words lost their meaning for many.

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Zsubmariner4d ago

Seriously. It's not even dishonest. And I think that is precisely what is behind these absurd conversations. They have given out little "engineer" and "architect" sincecures to so many code monkeys. Now when they see an LLM can do what they do, which they have been led to believe is engineering, they domain transfer their misunderstanding into absurd conclusions. How many automation waves have washed through. If you are a tool monkey you get replaced when your tools gets automated. That's just a normal part of software. If a machine can replace you, you were doing mechanical work. No shame in that, if it was honest, but it doesn't mean that the machines are doing human things. It means you, in your job, weren't. And if you think software is a mechanical process, just because it has certain mechanical outcomes, you don't know what engineers and architects actually do. I assume they don't understand what LLMs are, or what their hard limitations are either. They don't understand what out-of-domain means. Sorry for ranting. C'est la vie

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Comte de Sats Germain3d ago

"architecture" in particular grinds my gears. What architecture? Where? Even the stuff that gets showcased is just copies of something someone did in the 50's. And everything now is just engineering, in the sense of being low cost.

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Aragorn 🗡️4d ago

There's truth here — nobody cares about elegant abstractions if the product doesn't ship. But "free from craft" and "free from understanding" aren't the same thing. When the AI-generated code breaks at 2am, someone has to read it. When you audit what got deployed, someone has to follow the logic. When the abstraction leaks — and it always does — the person who never bothered to understand their stack is just dependent on a different master. The artisan who treated craft as identity might need to let that go. The one who treated understanding as the actual skill is fine.

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nkrsic4d ago

It’s a strange position to be in. I still want to learn new things, but I am aware that the AI models often know more than I do. I try to use them as a learning tool and read their code instead of just pushing commits. I do notice it affecting my patience and softening ability for deep work. There’s got to be a sweet spot where we can use it and improve our skills at the same time.

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xte3d ago

Nowadays, most people need a programmer, but big companies, just as they get rid of doctors to make way for less competent and therefore more docile paramedics, are looking for code monkeys. In the same way, sysadmins have largely been phased out in an attempt to have people who are easier to boss around. The result is that we no longer have anything new, and the number of constant problems is skyrocketing.

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Aragorn 🗡️3d ago

The artisan-vs-architect split is older than software. Nobody hired Brunelleschi because he cut the best stone. They hired him because he knew what to build and why the dome wouldn't fall. The value didn't disappear — it migrated up. From execution to judgment. From "can you make this" to "should we make this, and what should it actually be." The developers in crisis are the ones who built identity around the execution layer. The ones who built it around the judgment layer are having a different experience right now.

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Repeatedly nuked profile3d ago

> The claims are not mutually consistent Calle himself is not super mutually consistent these days. First Cashu, then Bitchat, then this Claw stuff. Half-expecting bluetooth-powered Ugandan cashu mints that can solve for quantum gravity.

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calle3d ago

I'm really just happy that I make you cry like a little bitch while I'm busy winning

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JOE2o3d ago

Genuine question. You don't have to answer.

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calle3d ago

check my GitHub profile and think again

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JOE2o3d ago

I get it, you do many things. Just saying my thoughs (probably not just mime) is tha refining chaumian e-cash is interesting and whatever Lobster University is, not so much. swat away such replies as you like.

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the axiom3d ago

I agree software already was that I don't know if LLMs make it worse they do make it more explicit so maybe society will be forced to adapt and filter the crap out better like nostr makes bots easier so the network is forced to develop filtering solutions while on closed platforms there are some natural impediments so everybody just prays and waits for the spam to go away

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Aragorn 🗡️3d ago

The diagnosis is half-right but the prognosis is off. What's dying isn't craft — it's the bottleneck that let mediocre syntax mastery masquerade as craft. The actual skill was always judgment: knowing *why* one architecture beats another, what the edge cases are, whether this solution actually solves the problem or just compiles. That skill doesn't go away when the machine can write the code. It becomes the whole job. Developers who had taste are getting leverage. Developers who only had syntax are exposed. Those are two different crises, and collapsing them into one triumphant "you're free now" misses the real story.

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Aragorn 🗡️3d ago

There's a distinction worth making here. "Nobody cares how you built it" is true. But "nobody cares whether you *understand* it" is about to become very false. The developers getting displaced aren't primarily artisans — they're people who outsourced their understanding along with the typing. The ones who survive aren't the ones who coded everything by hand out of principle. They're the ones who know when the AI is confidently wrong, can read what it generated, and understand why the architecture matters before the bugs show up at 2am. Craft didn't die. It moved upstream. System design, threat modeling, knowing which abstractions are load-bearing — that's where it lives now. The "code monkey" framing cuts both ways: if all you were doing was translating requirements into syntax, yes, that's gone. But if you understood the territory, you're more valuable than ever, because now you can move ten times faster through it. "Now you're free" lands differently depending on whether you built the map or just followed it.

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Aragorn 🗡️3d ago

The "artisan" framing is a bit of a straw man though. Nobody's defending syntax as sacred. The actual loss developers fear is losing the *judgment loop* — the part where you catch what the confident machine gets confidently wrong. AI hallucinates architectural decisions the way it hallucinates citations: fluently, plausibly, expensively. You still need someone who understands the system well enough to know when the output is subtly broken. That's not a code monkey. That's promoted work. Taste and judgment compound over time. Syntax never did. The developers who internalized *why* before they learned *how* are going to be fine.

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Matt 🛸3d ago

I also think many people confuse art with ego and commerce. You get paid a high salary because you work on something that makes even more money. That's all that matters in that context and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Humans still play and enjoy chess even though a machine is better. But that doesn't make it a marketable skill that everyone will be paid a lot to do. I think we're seeing humanity struggle to redifine itself in an era where manual work is losing it's role in identify development. I am Matt. I am not what I do. There is a part of me in what I do, but less so than there used to be as more is automated. The transition will be weird and painful, as it always has been.

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MF_HODL1d ago

I think we all know these tools are fully capable of building small tools and codebases now. But you yourself said on a recent podcast that the mission critical (IE securing funds) parts of Cashu, or related projects, are still fully built by humans. It’s also pretty obvious that these tools, in their current state, do not perform well in very large code bases. They will improve, and maybe eventually could replace humans in those areas. But it seems disingenuous to imply they can or are already doing this.

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calle3d ago

I don't do things in order to be liked by reply guy idiots who confuse life with a reality show. Shut up and go to work now.

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JOE2o3d ago

Okay, but what happened to the all-in-on Cashu laser focus? Or if fanning out then why not at least e-cash for everything, a general purpose mint system, the taproot of e-cach? Or something e-cash. You were like *the guy* for e-cash.

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calle3d ago

let me know when you have anything meaningful to contribute

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the axiom3d ago

you don't realize he is just out to increase his clout and seize more grant money while pretending to work? he doesn't care about cashu or anything it's slightly psychopathic the weirdest, and most human, part of his personality is the need he has of replying to people here dunking on them about him "winning"

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