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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻6d ago
my only goal with wisp is to make people like nostr and have it not feel so slow and broken keep your zaps but please spread the word 🙏
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🟠 isolabellart6d ago
Personally, I think I did my part. I hadn't been thrilled with Nostr for months, then you came along with Wisp.
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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻6d ago
thank you for your advocacy and feedback, you shaped the app for sure
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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻6d ago
when they grow some balls and bin that paperweight nonsense device 🤠
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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻6d ago
could make the same argument for windows vs Linux 👀🐸
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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻6d ago
no ios sorry fren 🐸
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vinney...axkl6d ago
exactly my feeling!
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Dan Wedge6d ago
Who saidyou could speak from the cult garden “pleb”
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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻5d ago
thank you!
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utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻5d ago
couple of weeks I hope
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FreedomTech8h ago
You can enable Play Services and install them and use them, but why bother using a DeGoogled phone at that point? I use the OsmAnd~ (OpenStreetMap Android) navigation app, which navigates great, but it doesn't look up addresses very well. To look up addresses on Graphene I use an app called GMaps WV, which sandboxes the browser version of Google Maps, from which I can send the coordinates to OsmAnd~. That keeps Google from tracking my every move through the Google's Nav App.
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FreedomTech8h ago
Swappa is the bomb.
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beejay8h ago
Yes they do. I use a separate profile for Maps, and a different one for banking (I only ever need it to deposit checks, which I can't do on PC and I do all my other banking on PC) It's a pretty neat feature called Sandboxed Google Play Built into GrapheneOS, it lets you run Google apps (like banking apps or Google Maps) while keeping your phone’s strong privacy protections. Instead of giving Google Play Services full access to your phone, GrapheneOS runs it inside a regular app sandbox just like any other app, but with no permissions AND you don't have to be logged into Google AT ALL. In fact, it's an anon sign-in that's automatic. It never even asks you. Google Play Services only gets minimal system access it needs (like checking device integrity for banks). It's a walled-in scope this way, so it cannot see what other apps are doing, or see any of your personal data.
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MAHDOOD6d ago
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Dan Wedge6d ago
Get back in line, with the rest of us. I like my expensive walled garden without complaints. Frankly ser your fake out rage is ruining this wonderful afternoon. #crabbucket #idontmemesry
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Dan Wedge6d ago
🫂
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ChipTuner8h ago
Agreed on avoiding google play services (iirc it's a semi-anon system?) I would say though, OSMAnd is terrible for me on an older device. Search basically doesn't work at all, I usually attempt to scroll the map till I find a place I recognze then drop a pin if I have to use it. Locks up often, navigation info disappears often, no alternate route user selection, an bad recalculation if at all when you miss an exit ramp. There are billion settings, so Id imagine some of these issues are fixable, but out of the box it's a terrible experience in comparison. The best option for local navigation i've used is HEREWeGo. It's online only, and also has issues with recalculations if you find yourself in rural areas often like me. Way better on battery though, navigation is first class, and search works similar to old GoogleMaps. You can actually search places like food and see open hours etc. Organic maps is fine for trails and stuff, but driving navigation is also nearly useless for similar reasons to OSMAnd.
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FreedomTech8h ago
OsmAnd navigates great now. The latest updates as of about a year ago improve the experience a lot. I even have it pulling Google Map's real-time traffic condition tiles so can see where traffic is backed up. If a house has its address entered into OpenStreetMap, OsmAnd tends to find it now, but most house addresses aren't in the database, so like I said, I use GMaps WV to look up addresses and then send the GPS coordinates to OsmAnd.
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beejay6h ago
Sandboxed Google Play is confusing because like you asked, why bother using a de-googled phone? Well, it's still degoogled when using sandboxed mode: Built into GrapheneOS, Sandboxed Google Play lets you run Google apps (like banking apps or Google Maps) while keeping your phone’s strong privacy protections. Instead of giving Google Play Services full access to your phone, GrapheneOS runs it inside a regular app just like any other app, but it's sandboxing means it's in a separate profile with no permissions and no other apps, AND you don't have to be logged into Google AT ALL. In fact, it's an anon sign-in that's automatic. It never even asks you. Google Play Services only gets minimal system access it needs (like checking device integrity for banks). It's a walled-in scope this way, so it cannot see what other apps are doing, or see any of your personal data.
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MAHDOOD5h ago
Can’t you just sandbox Google Maps and avoid the headache entirely?
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beejay8h ago
Good to know. I have only seen it, never used it. Have you ever gotten a seller (or buyer) to use BTC for their transaction?
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MAHDOOD5h ago
Heard about this and seems great. Not sure why people complain about graphene.
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beejay3h ago
It takes a few minutes to set up, but once you have done it, it's fairly straightforward to repeat as needed. I think the people who are unsure about it have not yet used it. I was one of them and it took me awhile to grasp how to do it and until I did, I was anxious about losing my "favorite apps". Either 1) Reducing dependence on "needed" (re: wanted) apps and/or finding FOSS/secure private alternatives, or 2) Keeping them but learning to secure them, is key.
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MAHDOOD6d ago
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ChipTuner8h ago
I still use it when I have to (areas without cell service), but for me the experience has been much worse in the past year to so. Maybe I should try removing it again and reinstalling it. How are you able to select alternate routes? That's a big deal for me. I need to be able to select a specific rout without having to trace the whole damn route out. I also find it's really sticky to that route. If I miss a turn it would rather have me go 20 miles out of the way to get back on the route, rather than route from the next exit for example or take back roads.
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FreedomTech8h ago
I never use alternate routes. It routes shortest, and that works for me.
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FreedomTech5h ago
I don't trust anything going through Play Services, even when Play Services is sandboxed. Plus someone needs to use the alternatives one a daily basis to figure out how to get things done practically and give feedback on what needs to be improved. OsmAnd~ is a really good nav app.
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MAHDOOD5h ago
Why don’t you trust it when it’s sandboxed?
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